Terror Twins Return | Sam Miller & Gary Graves Break Down the Skatepark Journey | USAFBL AFTER DARK | S4 E160

On this week’s episode of the podcast, we welcome very special guests @sam_miller69 and @garygraves22, also known as the Terror Twins @terrortwins_official! We dive into the long journey of getting a skatepark built in Corydon, Indiana. We talk about the fines that helped spark the movement, the town meetings, fundraising, and how years of persistence finally turned into a real park. We also get into the opening party, the impact on the local community, and how fingerboarding became part of the story too. This one is wild, hilarious, and packed with real grassroots energy from two guys who refused to let the dream die.

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Transcript

speaker-0 (00:00)
I had to. I had to.

speaker-2 (00:04)
He's like shout out to Skate Shop and says tiny Skate Shop on his-

speaker-0 (00:08)
Okay, let me get to the background real fast. Cause y'all are finger bangers, okay? I'm a real skateboarder, but listen, finger bangers are. What mean it like that? Oh shit.

I told you I

speaker-1 (00:24)
I'm

gonna make that a shirt. Can we make that a shirt? Can I make that a deck? Finger bangers!

speaker-0 (00:29)
Hold on,

speaker-2 (00:33)
not gonna lie, I almost brought a surprise guest for the podcast today. hit a turkey on the way over here.

speaker-0 (00:38)
Will you get a vulture or turkey vulture?

speaker-2 (00:40)
It

was long and it had big long tail feathers. I thought for sure I killed it So I went out of the car. I was gonna throw it when I was grabbing my life I was gonna throw it in the back seat. He was was breathing like

speaker-0 (00:46)
Wait

speaker-1 (00:49)
I like how rural this sounds like. You just a turkey. I haven't seen a turkey. I don't think I've ever seen a live turkey. You're all like, yeah, just, and you're all like, yeah, dude, I hear, I ran over one on the way over here.

speaker-0 (01:00)
So this one is when I won that thing.

speaker-2 (01:02)
Hold on, let's see what it says.

This one says Derby City 10K.

speaker-0 (01:07)
I

won again. These were back to back same day. That was a mini marathon behind a 10K. This was the warm up. This was the cool down. And this right here, we don't even talk about that. That was savage.

speaker-1 (01:19)
⁓ so I can barely make it to the mailbox. You're, you're a wild man.

speaker-0 (01:23)
I'm totally kidding. I, listen, those are participa- Listen, let me tell you something about participation trophies, okay? A lot of people are like, oh, we gotta quit giving kids participation trophies. Man, showing off is 90 % of the battle with anything you do. Literally. And when you're talking about running, bro, if I don't get a participation trophy for getting there at 6 a.m. and running, I'm gonna be pissed. I don't go to ones that don't have this. I don't go to ones that don't get a medal.

speaker-2 (01:53)
If you're not first, your participation. Yeah.

speaker-0 (01:56)
I'm not a runner like you think I am. is totally a facade. See, I can play it. You think I'm a

speaker-2 (02:01)
Wait a minute. Are we live right now? Are we recording?

speaker-1 (02:04)
Yeah, we're recording. We're recording.

speaker-0 (02:06)
Olympic hero here. But no. I know, kinda like it. Yeah, yeah.

speaker-2 (02:08)
What's in the jangles of that?

speaker-1 (02:12)
Got the chain swing and all that.

speaker-0 (02:14)
I love this. love this. So hang on. First of all, badass name makes me think of Adam Levine. ⁓ Is Levine the one that does the funny movies?

speaker-2 (02:25)
Is Adam Levine the one that tried to be the Queen's New League singer or is that somebody else?

speaker-0 (02:29)
Hmm, either way, it's pretty cool. Adam Levine is the guy who's like on ⁓ Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates. ⁓ yeah. He got hit by a dump truck. Dude severed his leg almost. it recently? No, when he was a kid and it's starting to mess with him now. He got hit by a 30 ton truck or something. Crazy bro. So anyways, ⁓ do you have your own company of sorts? Okay, but like do you do like finger boards or?

speaker-1 (02:53)
Yeah, USFPL.

do all that. We do parks, obstacles, got all kinds of cool stuff.

speaker-0 (03:00)
see this

speaker-2 (03:03)
What's your middle name?

speaker-0 (03:04)
Hey guys, welcome to the USA FBL Podcast. I am your host Sam Bo, this is Gary Graves, and today we're with...

speaker-2 (03:13)
special guest Levine. Yeah!

speaker-0 (03:14)
Yes,

yes. One of best. In the game. I mean my goodness.

speaker-1 (03:17)
We're running it.

Man, all right, so we got Gary Graves and Sam Miller on the mic. Also known as Krampus Stupid today. What are you guys, the Tarot Twins?

speaker-2 (03:31)
We're rebranding a little bit.

speaker-1 (03:34)
Yeah. The terror twins, right? All right. Tell us about the territory.

speaker-0 (03:36)
Thanks

speaker-2 (03:38)
The stupid is to our aid it so we're going PG 13 with a little bit already

speaker-0 (03:43)
Listen, Cramp the Stupid is always going to be the sub. It's the subreddit, right? And then Terror Twins is the dynamic duo as together all the time everywhere. While Cramp the Stupid could be the movie name when we come out with a movie.

speaker-2 (03:46)
I'm thinking bomber of it all.

speaker-1 (04:02)
You

guys were on episode 115 and 117. These were actually a USFPL podcast after dark. They were so aggressive and so are X rated. We have to make it an after dark episode.

speaker-2 (04:18)
Where we show on the CTS.

speaker-0 (04:19)
CTS, CTS. It looks great. The problem is, see here's the thing, people are like, liptats fade. I'm like, hmm, I mean, how much damn dip do you do, brother? You know what I'm saying? How many trials you put in that just irritates the gums where they dissipate? None.

speaker-1 (04:38)
feel like this could be a wild episode for sure. So before you can get started, feel like I need to do a couple of disclaimers. Yeah. The activities shown in this video are performed by trained professionals under controlled conditions. They may be dangerous and could result in serious injury or death. Do not attempt to replicate anything you see. The creators assume no liability for any injuries or damages resulting from imitation. ⁓

speaker-0 (04:44)
Get through it then.

speaker-2 (05:04)
lawyer right there.

speaker-0 (05:05)
Say

bro last time you got to get these fools off of here

speaker-1 (05:09)
It's crazy. You guys are wild. I love it. I love it. But also I also feel like I need to do this one as well. All opinion statements and viewpoints expressed by the podcast guests are solely their own. USFPL, its staff, affiliates, partners do not endorse, verify or assume responsibility for any claim statements made during this content. Viewer discretion is advised.

speaker-2 (05:30)
advised.

speaker-1 (05:33)
they've got you

speaker-0 (05:37)
Good luck! I miss you!

speaker-1 (05:40)
guys as well

speaker-0 (05:41)
I miss you so much

speaker-1 (05:44)
The last time I saw you guys, we did the event. think the event came after the pod.

speaker-2 (05:50)
And then we had another pot after the event.

speaker-1 (05:52)
You did man, it's been a hot minute. It's been a minute in the woods.

speaker-0 (05:58)
I think you're missing a lot of

speaker-2 (05:59)
What do need some more what? Light? How's that? Is that better?

speaker-1 (06:01)
Ooh, I like that.

speaker-0 (06:03)
Yeah, I think it's just gonna make sense that way. I got so much stuff on my glasses. I just can't see man

speaker-2 (06:09)
Let

me see your teeth, how's your teeth doing?

speaker-1 (06:11)
They're getting better, they're getting straighter. I think by end of the year, I might be able to pull these things off.

speaker-2 (06:15)
Nice, can we do it?

speaker-1 (06:19)
No, I'm not saying no. I'm not saying no.

speaker-0 (06:22)
Let them know. them we should be able to do it.

speaker-1 (06:25)
Let me know if they're qualified to pull my braces off. I feel like it's going to cause more damage than good, but we'll see.

speaker-0 (06:32)
You imagine

like you go through all that. Like I've always thought about braces. Luckily my top teeth are pretty straight, but my bottom ones, they're not bad. They're like a little bit just kind of overlap, but I think I told you the bottom jaw.

speaker-2 (06:47)
I don't think I've ever really seen your teeth before like that. Dude, my teeth. I think I'm getting braces this year.

speaker-1 (06:52)
Are you? Okay, okay. It's not too late, man. I'm almost 40.

speaker-0 (06:56)
I

got a really good dentist who will f*** you up. We got a really good dentist. hook you up. Well, we probably won't hook you listening up, but man, if we could, we totally would. If I was a dentist, I would do everybody's teeth on here for free. You know what I mean? If you had a cavity, if you had a root canal that needed to be done, you had, if you were jaw jacked, I would fix it. But that won't happen.

speaker-2 (06:56)
Yes, we're A.

Yeah

speaker-1 (07:22)
I feel like you just want to pull all the teeth.

speaker-0 (07:24)
Dude, you know, tooth pain is the worst pain I've ever felt in my entire life, no matter what. It will never be beat. When I needed a root count on my teeth, it was the worst thing ever, Like 15 out 10 pain levels.

speaker-1 (07:42)
Damn. All right. Let's get into this. Brush your teeth, your teeth, body positivity, 2026. all about it.

speaker-0 (07:50)
Yeah, get those teeth fixed. ⁓

speaker-2 (07:52)
Wait, wait. Tell him about your shirt for last year. Don't want to call on yourself out.

speaker-1 (07:58)
The money grabbing horse?

speaker-0 (08:00)
The what?

speaker-1 (08:02)
The money grabbing horse shirt?

speaker-2 (08:03)
You got a shirt saying, money grabbing whores on it with the USAFBL logo.

speaker-0 (08:08)
What does that mean?

speaker-1 (08:10)
Man, so they're accusing me of being a money grabbing whore. They're accusing me of like, yeah, the finger boarding world is like, yeah, dude, USFPL is money grabbing whores and we just leaned into it and made a shirt, which by the way, you can grab at usafbl.com.

speaker-0 (08:25)
Yes, get it. Buy it. Because let me tell you something, ain't nothing worse than like them backwoods, I'm just gonna throw this out there, them backwoods, anybody trying to make a fingerboard to sell to the masses. Like listen, dude, don't get over proud of yourself on what you do, okay? Be stoked that people are succeeding doing their fucking thing, doing things that you wish you could do.

whilst you're still doing what you're doing, that's great, but never spike the people that are a little bit ahead or a little bit better in your eyes. You know what I'm saying? You gotta stay humble. You need to eat some of that humbleberry pie because dude, ain't nothing worse in what I do, the fingerboard world, than somebody who just needs a nice bite of that humbleberry pie. It's the worst thing ever.

speaker-1 (09:12)
I also came to realize to you that hate never comes from above, always comes from below.

speaker-0 (09:16)
100 % 100 % Every day I wake up it's like dude listen you know what saying you gotta have enough because if you didn't have those you wouldn't be progressing no matter what

speaker-2 (09:18)
That's not pretty accurate for today.

speaker-1 (09:29)
This is true. think Kat Williams even says, ⁓ made a little schedule 10 years ago, whatever, talking about like, ⁓ you judge your level of success by the level of haters you got. And it's like, if you got 18 haters right now, like you need to get like two more by the summer so you can have 20 haters kind of thing.

speaker-0 (09:46)
100 %

speaker-2 (09:47)
We're getting there. To back this story up, Levine hit me up last fall or something. He goes, hey, I'm going up to the Black River store in Chicago. Do you ride along? And I'm like, hell yeah. And Levine's like, please don't say this story. But ⁓ we go up there and he goes like, just to show the community that I care. He goes like, I'm going to hide some cash outside. I'm going to take a picture of it. And he goes like, and then first person that can find it finds it. So he takes 60 bucks and he puts it under a Black River sticker on the pole right up front.

speaker-1 (09:48)
We're getting there, we're getting there.

Are we gonna tell the story? I don't know the story

Yeah, you can't tell the story.

speaker-2 (10:28)
So if it gets bleeped out, there's a juicy story coming up. So Levine, we make the thing is like, first come, first serve. And then he hurries up, takes the cash down and puts it his pocket. Everybody's like, bro, a homeless person went out there and took the cash. I seen him. seen it. We're on our way back to Indianapolis at the time. And then someone else is like, yeah, we're going to get on the video camera to see which homeless person it was.

Money grabbing whore.

speaker-1 (10:57)
Grabbing whores

speaker-0 (10:59)
⁓ my God. Did they find you? Did they find you on the cameras?

speaker-1 (11:03)
we were kind of hoping that they would because if they would have saw it and then I was on camera doing it people would be like dude like what is this

speaker-0 (11:14)
⁓ my god.

speaker-1 (11:16)
And then we would have put it on a share course.

speaker-0 (11:18)
That's actually kind of brilliant. Bringing to the spot by just drawing in with money, that's brilliant.

speaker-2 (11:20)
You know how good of a video clip that would have

speaker-1 (11:25)
I always felt like that's what all of them usually do because I'd never see anybody like winning because there's like a group in Indy that does that like just hides cash all around the city and stuff. But the winner's never like, hey, I found it like never.

speaker-0 (11:37)
We have one of them, he does show the end. And show your end on that video. You guys, I found it!

speaker-2 (11:40)
You said service.

speaker-0 (11:49)
You can really find something, you lost it, I do it every day I wake up. Where's my keys? They're over there behind that sticker. The Black River sticker with the 60 bucks. ⁓ man.

speaker-1 (12:01)
All let me get a quick couple of plugs in real quick. First off, I'm not sure when this pod will come out.

speaker-0 (12:07)
Hang

hang on, hang on. What this segment we call it. Get the plugs in. Plug it, keep going.

speaker-1 (12:14)
Ooh, he's got the plugs. All right. We're plugging it in right now. All right. Plies mag number 17 out now. Go pick it up at plies mag.com. Get a physical copy. can view the digital for free as well. Go to plies mag.com hook up. got decks, mags, posters. We got it all obstacles, parks, usfbl. Oh, it feels so good to get all that stuff out there. Yeah. Game escape tables, full blown parks. We've got obstacles. We've got all of that stuff available at usfbl.com.

speaker-0 (12:34)
Thank you.

speaker-1 (12:44)
Go pick one up now, they are ready to launch, ready to go. ⁓ Sam's having too much fun with the plug.

speaker-0 (12:52)
Man, time to plug, dude.

speaker-1 (12:55)
But I want to talk about you guys. You guys have been on, I want to say like a five year journey of putting a skate park in your town.

speaker-2 (13:04)
Six, 17 plus, 17 but six like this last stretch.

speaker-0 (13:08)
Yes.

speaker-1 (13:09)
So six years, six years. All right. Let's. To the beginning, because I think I came along four years ago, so two years into the six year journey, I kind of been tracking what you guys have been doing and helping out wherever I can. But I mean, like this whole backstory, like I feel like anyone who doesn't have a skate park in their city and you're a skater, like it's the dream to have a skate park in your city.

speaker-0 (13:12)
Just happy every minute.

speaker-1 (13:38)
Most people are like, ⁓ they talk about it, but you guys actually went out and you guys were all about it. Like you guys talk the walk, walk the talk, talk the whatever. Like you guys made it. I love it. Tell us the origin story.

speaker-0 (13:53)
Sorry, I just was able to hear you finally, because... We had turn the volume up. The volume got stuck in your ear. No, we heard you. heard you. So, from the beginning of the last six years, how about this? We'll tell you like this. It's been nearly 20 years of attempting in some fashion to get a skate park in Coeur d'Inde. Now that is petitioning. That is...

speaker-2 (13:59)
No

speaker-0 (14:15)
You know, from the date of first ever petition, going around getting people to sign a sheet, you know, back in the old day, that was kind of how you did it, like literally 10, 15 years ago. That's how you did it, you petition, and that basically says that, everybody around here really wants it. They agree too. This guy agrees, this guy agrees. It's a lot more modern than that now, but fast forward. ⁓ we tried, we tried. ⁓ town doesn't have no money, yada yada. Fast forward to the recent six years, and we kind of reignited that, and how'd that get reignited?

speaker-2 (14:45)
Well, I think it first started out by they were started issuing fines for kids skating on the sidewalk and kids skating on the road. we, when we get it switched from this road to the sidewalk, and then eventually we went to the town board meeting. I was like, it's kind of some bullshit because like you don't want to skate on the streets. You don't want to skate in the sidewalks. You don't want to skate in parking lots. So we have nowhere to skate. The kids have nowhere to skate. And our town has nothing for like younger generation at all. So we were like, we got this like, what was it? $150 fine.

It was something ridiculous. If a 12 year old is out there skating, how are they going to pay a $150 fine? So we went to the town board meeting, got that shut down, and I think that was one of first times we made the front page of the paper.

speaker-0 (15:23)
Yeah, and kind of instigated the fact that, well, maybe we need somewhere to do this safely. So that was great to kind of get a bug in somebody's ear or more than just somebody, but several people's ear who were important. And then push came to shove and really it was the right people at the right time. It was a recipe. I say this all the time, but there's no other better way to put it. I would say it was the right people.

at those kind of board meetings. So we went to the one with the ticket and then after that, well, we went to maybe one or two more consecutive.

speaker-2 (15:55)
So

we've swapped town managers now, like I say probably like five or six times. So this lady that was the town manager whenever, which I think a town manager is like the mayor, but it's a higher, like a higher position instead of elected. Cause we live in a kind of a smaller community. The lady that was the town manager that implemented the role for the fines stepped down and a new town manager took its place, took her place. And he was like, he's what in his sixties, seventies or something. And they just,

Afterwards they had this I don't even know how you ever seen those like sod looking parks that with like the mounds and stuff on them where it's got like the turf that It's kind of smooth that you see like kids skating on from time to time Yeah, they spent the town spent like a million dollars for a goofy small one of these in the town

speaker-0 (16:39)
Yeah, that and a Bicentennial which is essentially a sidewalk park, but it is in the middle of town. It's got a lot of, is this what you're talking about?

The bicentennial was before it. So I'll tell you this too. So there was a grant situation that happened. It was like the stellar. And this was a city in Indiana could get like up to, wanna say two million. That's spitballing. It was from one to $2 million and to upgrade their city essentially. a lot of, now that think about it, a lot of the skate park idea really started unfolding when that grant was on the table for the town.

They were like, hey, maybe we can kind of push this and instigate this in with Stellar. And that was about the same point in that six year, you know, early timeframe where the tickets happened. And then it was like, well, maybe we should go say something. Hey, hey, you guys should really come in here and say something about needing a skate park, this and that, because we got this big grant opportunity. So that was big part of it too. that's.

speaker-2 (17:39)
I think they town ran out they ran out a lot of the money and I think they put like the last like 300,000 into like the town fund for like future projects. Yeah, and just kind of like sat on it. But ⁓ so the new town manager gets in and then some of us are up skating those little mounds are like the I don't even know what to call them just turf mounds.

speaker-0 (17:58)
Yeah, it's like tires, essentially. It's like that kind of rubber, right? You can literally ride it, but it slows you down, that kind of thing. So, yeah.

speaker-2 (18:07)
But we're all there skating one night and the new town manager, this old guy comes up recording us on his phone, just losing us. Like, this is some bullshit. goes, this thing costs over a million dollars and this and that. so like I went off on him. I'm like, it's bullshit that, you know, like we're getting fines left and right. We got that shut down and now we're dealing with like you all coming up here and running us out like the only like skatable place in town now, because you don't want to skate on curbs, ledges, stair sets, whatever, like the banks.

like they're just being like haters about everything. And now they got this park is in a park and they don't want to skate in it either. I'm like, it's some bullshit. He's like, he stopped recording in the middle because like, you know, maybe, maybe you're right. Maybe we should really consider a skate park. And then he invited us to the next town board meeting and we went in there and proposed it and they were like, all right, let's just think about that. And it just started evolving since then. Yeah.

speaker-1 (18:59)
Crazy. So basically a lot of people were getting tickets and getting fined by the city for skateboarding and places are not supposed to be skateboarding at. Yeah. And it started becoming a pretty large problem. And that's when you guys were like, kind of more being an activist as far as like trying to find a spot that's exclusively for you guys to go skate within the city.

speaker-0 (19:23)
That was a good basis for our argument why we needed one. Hey, all this is happening. You're gonna call it legal ride on sidewalks, then you have to give us somewhere to do this. It's like saying, okay, I understand I can't play basketball on the street, there's a basketball hoop over there. I can't skateboard in the street, which is a, it's a plenty physical activity. Now listen, I did all the research on injuries and stuff. This is things that we pitched to him for all these meetings. it's like, guys, you got football fields, you got baseball fields. More people get hurt in baseball.

than they do in skateboarding, which is wild. if you really think about it, it does make sense. It is true. it's like, think of all the concussions and all these little things that happen in football, never mind the big injuries. it's like, guys, ball sports are so much more dangerous, yet we're not having a place for people to ride bikes, scooters, you know? And it's like, if we have all these availabilities for everybody else, so you're basically gapping saying, if you don't play ball sports, you don't get to do anything in this town fun.

speaker-2 (20:19)
towards

speaker-0 (20:23)
essentially or to enjoy yourself or to excel to get better you know yeah

speaker-2 (20:24)
Or

Every kid wants to get involved in a team sport either. That's where skateboarding and potentially fingerboarding comes into play because it just teaches personal creativity and you can bloom on your own and have to deal with four people to have fun.

speaker-0 (20:43)
Yeah, I couldn't.

speaker-1 (20:45)
I was gonna say, do you think that the skateboarding being the Olympics added enough credibility for the city to really kind of take it seriously?

speaker-0 (20:52)
100 % it helped because at that point is like the first the first time when it was in the Olympics was riding out ballpark of getting all this stuff together and then it's like guys skateboarding is in the Olympics now I think we ought to think about this as far as a higher level of thinking than just some kids riding around and destroying stuff it's like they need a place to skill up you know to level up because now

it's nationwide or international sorry but the thing is it always was we all know that but yeah but coming from a little bit of a podunk town you're like okay farmer dan didn't know skateboarding was international and it was so big and so important and now it's in the olympics and he's gonna watch it there you go so now what

speaker-2 (21:40)
The town would win potential for some younger kid to eventually be in the Olympics. That's good growth for the town in itself.

speaker-1 (21:49)
Yeah, I mean, having a hometown hero make it in to a highly elevated, you know, like the Olympics is absolutely crazy for that city and stuff. We see it all the time with like, you know, Michael Jordan and LeBron and all these other guys that come back to their hometowns as heroes and stuff like that. And they put their home city back on the map and stuff like that. And so I can only imagine that at some point being a skateboarding thing as well. So.

speaker-0 (22:00)
It's possible, so possible.

But let's also not, what would you call it? Let's not ⁓ backseat the fact that fingerboarding is what it is now. you know, I tell a lot of people, especially who are, you know, are, how would you say that? Ignorant to the fact that fingerboarding is what it is. It's not just tech deck. Now tech deck's great, whatever, but it's not just tech decks. Now it's like.

Legitimate. Now it's a big industry and now we have, would say, I'll let him say this, but I'll say the US's first professional park, like official professional outdoor. You can say outdoor.

speaker-2 (22:54)
you would know more than I do because you get all over but like would you say that the parks we get built currently right now are like the first like of its kind in America?

speaker-1 (23:02)
Definitely in America, yes. know Europe's got a lot of outdoor, yeah. Boarding parks and stuff, but definitely like when you're talking about like an American soil, stuff like that, this is it's in its category of its own.

speaker-0 (23:14)
That's great. And it's in Corden, Indiana. I just looked it up. was 3157 people. And that was in 2020. I thought we did these more often. Let's say that everybody got together. They laid in bed that night and had kids again. We'll say 4,100 people, maybe 4,000 people. I don't know. Just a good guesstimate. Right around 4K. Ultra high def.

speaker-1 (23:27)
It's like every

It's kind of crazy to think that all this is happening in such a small town like Orton, which is...

speaker-0 (23:50)
Now

speaker-2 (23:51)
Let's backtrack a little bit too and real quick.

speaker-0 (23:53)
Sorry, that's the town of Corden and the skateboard is within the town, but you'll be surprised on a map where the town of Corden actually lies compared to the area around it. So it's very small cutout and I'm assuming that they're going with that small cutout of where the town of Corden is. And our county is Harrison, which is quite a bit bigger. I would say double that is probably, or 10K to 13K entirely in our Harrison County.

speaker-1 (24:23)
Yeah, yes, the surrounding area. Yeah

speaker-0 (24:24)
Say off the exit, right?

speaker-2 (24:27)
And

we're going to spitball a bit of knowledge here. Cordon, Indiana was Indiana's first state capital before it moved up to Indianapolis. The more the You know that Mr. Indianapolis?

speaker-0 (24:35)
you know.

speaker-1 (24:36)
more you know okay

I did not know that ⁓ okay ⁓

speaker-0 (24:40)
Mr. Who's your daddy?

speaker-2 (24:44)
Backtracking in our story here, when the town started showing a little bit of interest into the skate park and get one in the city limits, did a survey, an online survey, and I think you even shared it on your platform. know we shared it all over Facebook. We post up, what do you want to see in the skate park? So like what options, like you want bowls, ramps, stair sets, hubbaz, rails, what do you want to see? And I hit everybody up and I'm like, we want fingerboard parks. And it was like,

unheard of at time. Like, what do mean a fingerboard park? It's like, just get on there and say, we want a fingerboard park. So we shared it to the masses. And the response for people that probably didn't know what fingerboard park was that said we wanted a fingerboard park made the town like, they're like, I don't know what a fingerboard park is, but we're getting multiple ones at the skate park.

speaker-1 (25:26)
I love it. remember that actually. Yeah, I remember that because we were spreading that in all the Facebook groups, all on Instagrams, collaborations, post stories, all that stuff, just trying to get the word out and all that. Cause I remember they were looking for just a lot of people, like just activity and stuff around the idea of bringing skateboarding basically to that area.

speaker-2 (25:46)
And it probably didn't help the fact that like at that time finger boarding on a national level was becoming more of a tour instead of just like, you know, like a one-off event here and there. I would dare to say that like that was right after COVID and COVID boomed finger boarding.

speaker-1 (26:02)
Yeah, 100%.

speaker-0 (26:03)
For sure. I love COVID. COVID was great. Dude, COVID checks are great. You can go ahead do whatever you want. Yeah. People are so terrified of everything. It's like, brother, just take a little chance, a little bit of chance, a little risk, whole lot of reward.

speaker-2 (26:05)
Wait, I missed those COVID checks.

Pointing tickets pretty much anywhere for like 80 bucks.

speaker-1 (26:21)
We went to Vegas. went to, it was like literally practically free. We stayed at the, uh, yeah, we stayed at the mainland Bay. And I mean, they're like usually like four or $500 a night rooms. And we got them for like, like the resort fees was actually more expensive than the room itself. Like, yeah, like 120 bucks, think, which seems like a regular hotel. But when you're staying like a resort resort, anybody that's going to Vegas knows like that's ridiculously cheap, but yeah.

speaker-0 (26:26)
Please come, please!

speaker-2 (26:49)
Yeah

speaker-1 (26:50)
And the life went down for like four days and like we like had the time of our life and we only spent like a grand total and came back. It was wild.

speaker-0 (26:58)
and 999 of it was game. I got a lot money when I went, dude. I would I look like the the fan. What's it that Vegas vacation where he goes in there and he's playing and he fricking loses every single thing. He started playing rock, paper, scissors and shit and lose. And it's like, that's exactly what I felt like. I brought we had my fiance and then a couple, another couple went with us and I was rolling with the dude. The girls are going to do their thing.

I'd sit somewhere, he would hit on the same machine I'm playing, like obviously same type of machine, and I'm getting just annihilated. Annihilated. But you know, you gotta do what you gotta do. Write it off, I don't know.

speaker-1 (27:38)
You do what you gotta do,

don't know if I can write that off, but...

speaker-0 (27:43)
Nah, nah man.

speaker-2 (27:45)
right now listen to this so I told Levine

speaker-1 (27:49)
Actually,

hold on, because we just did a, accounting podcast last week and we talked about it, but I think I did write that off because I combined the trip with the Sin City Sesh. So, Mezcal and Burt the Plug, hosted an event and we actually went out to there to go to their own.

speaker-0 (28:09)
Hey, as long as you're making business moves, people.

speaker-2 (28:11)
I have super

chills baby

speaker-1 (28:12)
I know, know. So that's how I, cause I was like, why are we even in Vegas? And I was like, oh, there's a finger boarding event. And I was looking at all the pricing and stuff and I'm like, everything's dirt cheap. Like, and I told the wife, want to go? And you're like, yeah. And I think that's why we're out there. I have to like do some digging. I'm going to find that flyer and stuff, but yeah, it was a lot of fun.

speaker-0 (28:28)
Where you stay how you get there? Yeah cash on hand oops

speaker-1 (28:34)
Man, I want to say those are the good old days, but those are bad days for some and great days for others.

speaker-0 (28:39)
Do you know what they should do with braces? They should make braces where you have like, where it looks like a grill. Why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't that be a grill?

speaker-1 (28:45)
I wish they would.

I don't know if my insurance would cover like, you know, some Paul. Yeah. Diamond plated grills.

speaker-2 (28:53)
with diamonds on her

speaker-0 (28:56)
I mean, I feel like grills can make the same moves the braces do. It's like Invisalign, they have the same movements. I wanna get a unitooth. I wanna, I talked to my dentist, I wanna get one, and here's the thing, I said this before Kanye did it, bro, and then Kanye got that platinum unitooth, one tooth. I said it before, I'm just four, okay? I can't afford no damn unitooth. And my dentist laughed at me when I said it, so.

speaker-1 (28:59)
You think so.

speaker-0 (29:23)
But I mean, think about that, if we were just one big tooth, you're not getting any cavities.

speaker-1 (29:28)
mean, if you're rich enough and crazy enough like Kanye, mean, any debtors will write it off. Don't figure that away.

speaker-0 (29:34)
Platinum's just saying, that's just unnecessary.

speaker-1 (29:38)
He's like, we're making that out of copper, stainless steel.

speaker-0 (29:41)
I could get some copper out of the building down the road.

speaker-2 (29:45)
The brunch would be through here, we just make sure it doesn't rust.

speaker-0 (29:48)
Put some Coca-Cola on it like a damn battery terminal.

speaker-1 (29:55)
Okay, so when did hunger skate parks get involved with all of this? Cause

speaker-2 (30:01)
Okay, so, so backtracking ⁓

speaker-0 (30:07)
That was good.

it though. Hunger did the whole survey and everything.

speaker-2 (30:10)
So

they were like, we need to put a bid out for who's going to build the park. And we're like, we don't need to do a bid. It's going to be hunger. Hunger is local to Indiana. They make some of the best parks you'll ever see. there's like, the guys are great. ⁓

speaker-0 (30:23)
A big part of it was the New Albany Float Park just got redone. they, so you don't understand. Gary O can probably relay on this a little bit more, but the New Albany skate park was a just an absolute turd. It was fun. Like all skaters love a turd of a park, right? I'm not talking about like ridiculous rail pyramids that don't make any sense. It had some officers and fun.

speaker-2 (30:46)
When they poured the concrete, the town thought that it was going to be too smooth and people were going get hurt. So while they were pouring concrete, they were smoothed out and they were out there with rakes pulling through the concrete to give it a gritty feel.

speaker-0 (30:56)
Yeah, we all know that we like it smooth, right? So, so they did that and then it was just stairs and just really weird. It was kind of tiered, which was cool, but only if you build it correctly. So.

speaker-2 (31:08)
100 % an 80s to a 90s Just picture that time period park and it's gonna be what you think.

speaker-0 (31:11)
And that time

And it was built technically illegally or you know, illegally is hard to say. mean, town, I guess, but it was in a it's in a floodplain. So since it was pre-existing, whether it was built, not supposed to be built or not, Hunter was able to go and redo it and they revamped it. And it's literally one of the greatest skate parks in existence. I'll throw that out there. Come fight.

speaker-2 (31:37)
You ever see the

speaker-1 (31:38)
It's still out there right now today, right?

speaker-0 (31:40)
yeah.

speaker-2 (31:41)
It's

the skate park that's got the big rainbow archway that over a door is a famous feature in a skate park.

speaker-0 (31:47)
And

then it's got a steamboat. It's a lot of oh, it's a lot of cool art that's kind of an ode to Ohio River, which is really cool because it's, I mean, a rock to the.

speaker-2 (31:55)
This is a fire

theme, yeah for sure. It's got like serpents that you can like to a snakehead that can carve and take over.

speaker-0 (32:01)
Dude, the

more I think about it, the more horny I get. No, no, no, no, no,

speaker-1 (32:05)
You guys said it was in corner, right?

Albany? No, I know like that was like plug plug where that's at. I was like.

speaker-0 (32:13)
I

mean, especially by New Albany, Indiana. The waterfront is the last city right over to Louisville. And it is Louisville, not Louis.

speaker-1 (32:20)
Okay, okay

speaker-2 (32:22)
How do you say that Louisville Louisville

speaker-0 (32:26)
Be real. Alright, yeah, it's King Louis. It's France.

speaker-1 (32:27)
I always say Louie.

speaker-2 (32:31)
Everybody's a knocker

speaker-1 (32:32)
Like the Louis the slugger, like that's how we always

speaker-2 (32:35)
Exactly. People just don't get it around here.

speaker-0 (32:38)
Louis. It's named after French King Louis the 14th. How can it not be Louis? There was no King Lua. What ⁓ is he, Hawaiian? So, some of them went okay.

speaker-2 (32:44)
Yeah.

speaker-1 (32:49)
Samoan. I

have no idea. Just don't happen. So hunger skate parks got involved. They were involved with the with the survey and then when I so they actually came up to my headquarters, my finger boarding shop when we had it here in

speaker-2 (33:05)
Well, after the popular vote for Fingerboarding or Fingerboard Park was there, the guy hits me up, he goes like, I don't even know what this means. Like, what is a Fingerboard Park? He's like, is it small ramps? He's like, what size ramps are we talking He's like, I just don't understand. I was like, well, I got a buddy that has a shop up in Indianapolis. Let's meet up there and I can show you what a Fingerboard Park is. And he came up there and peaked it and it just kind of blew his mind. He just didn't know that world of ⁓ skate parks was there.

speaker-1 (33:32)
So he actually, he's remembering you hit me up. was like, Hey, so shopping to be open. I'm like, yeah, do you like come swing by? And he's like, all right, cool. I'm going to bring, this guy up here from hunger skate parks. Like he just wants to like come over and like just see all the parks and schematics and like sizing and what they look like.

speaker-0 (33:47)
it Bart? Bart? ⁓ dude Bart. Bart dude. My god that dude's a legend.

speaker-1 (33:50)
Yeah.

speaker-2 (33:53)
Bar

is the realest park builder I've ever seen in my life. Like this guy, he could bring anything to life from his imagination. He's just like, he's so core in skateboarding and skate park culture that like, if you picture it up, he can make it happen. He is 10 out of 10, if not more.

speaker-1 (34:08)
He came up and he was overly like fascinated with everything that we had going on with the store, all the parts. We had like 30 something parts there and Hollywood High, all that.

speaker-0 (34:18)
He was fascinated as he should be. It's crazy that you have and then like...

speaker-1 (34:20)
He should have been, he was.

speaker-2 (34:25)
Well, he walked out. I remember we were in the parking lot. looks at me, he goes like, this is my time to shine. said, uh, he goes like, we can build parks for days, but he goes like, something like this is going to be art for me. And he goes, I'm going to do like, it's going to be crazy. Like he was so stoked for this project. Like I think he was nervous about beforehand, but once he seen like what the Finger Word Parks was and like what they could be, his mind went crazy.

speaker-1 (34:48)
Now I know between him visiting the shop, mean, during the time, I mean, you guys still had a problem with the city. People not being able to skate, people not being able to, you know, not get fined and stuff like that.

speaker-2 (35:02)
a backlash from the town saying that like, we don't need a skate park. We need an amphitheater or we need this and that. just to prove to the town that like the need for a skate park was there and that we would bring out enough skaters to justify a skate park. threw our first event called Push for a Park and we shut down one of the streets downtown in Indiana. And we built, it was like a pop-up skate park, but it was during the fourth of July parade. it the fourth of July parade? It was one of our first parades. We built a mini ramp on the back of a

on like a car wagon and we had pulled through the town during the parade and we had like a whole bunch of people skating on the mini ramp. had like hundreds of skaters on each side of the mini ramp and it was...

speaker-0 (35:43)
Like we didn't win the flow of the parade, but it gives me all Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, shut up the vets we appreciate your service, but we should Service by making us lose that was crazy Nobody's doing that shit. I mean, three people ever I've seen do that. Yeah

speaker-2 (35:47)
Well, they gave it to the VHW. Like the veterans would...

speaker-1 (36:05)
Yeah,

let's talk about the float. Cause I remember that you guys were super proud of this. had a bunch of local finger boarders there. You had a couple of skateboarders that were like literally skating on the float while it was driving. Talk about that.

speaker-2 (36:15)
I forgot about this.

Yeah, we had a Jeep pulling or your dad pulling the mini ramp on the thing and then Sam's kid was driving a

speaker-0 (36:25)
Big wheels. You wanna stay? Big wheels with a black hair.

speaker-2 (36:30)
Yeah, we had a Black River Mini getting pulled behind our parade float itself. So we had finger boarding going on on a kids scale behind our actual big boys skate park.

speaker-0 (36:40)
Okay.

speaker-1 (36:41)
It's just wild. I'm gonna have find the footage for it, but it was wild.

speaker-2 (36:44)
And like the town, like the response from the town completely changed after that. It was like, they couldn't wait to get a skate park going. And like, I don't know if the skate park was a hundred percent, I don't know if the skate park was a hundred percent going to get built before that, but after we did that, they were all on board. They couldn't get it going quick enough.

speaker-0 (36:54)
Oops.

And I'll say this too, they really understood like, it's not necessarily all just about the skate park, it's about like, I think they kind of seen it like, dude, the youth that, the importance of having things on a variety of things for the youth to do is what we gotta accomplish here. You know what I mean? Like, you have all the ball sports in the world that you wanna do, but you have to so many people to deal with. While they've seen this and it's like,

Yeah, you can go meet up with us or you can go do whatever you want. go, cops will go find this kid. Hey kid, get out of here. One kid doing this thing, having the greatest time of his life. And it's like, you know what? We see all these people together. Most of them are from the town. Obviously we had some people from the outside coming in, but it's like, this is gonna be big. It's gonna be bigger than we think. And that's where a lot of people got on board with that. That parade was huge for the success of all of us. So.

It's not necessarily about going to a meeting and stating your claim. It's about getting together and brewing your claim.

speaker-2 (38:09)
You

need to make the town that you're from or like wherever you want to get a parking. You need the people that's in charge to see why you need that. Yeah. And like what it can benefit the community.

speaker-0 (38:19)
They like this and they see a lot of people congregating to one thing, provides a lot of this to the city. is what it is. Let's not, you know what saying? Let's not beat around the bush here. It's about, hey, you come into town, you spending money in our town, going out to eat, you obviously got to replenish, whether it be food, water, drinks.

speaker-2 (38:28)
They like that rip

speaker-0 (38:43)
Then if you know going out to eat in the local restaurants staying the night staying the weekend staying the week. It's all important to the locality. Oh man. I can't say any times being Gary go places and we're like all right which one's got a four star coffee shop. We're to go review this place. All right. Coffee shop it is 10 bucks a piece easy right off the bat like come

speaker-2 (38:52)
Coffee shops, guests, me... All the nine yards there.

speaker-1 (39:06)
Yeah, local, local economics definitely plays a role in what gets developed in the city and how it affects the city and stuff as well. want to say almost all of the decisions are based off of the local economics.

speaker-0 (39:18)
and new understandably.

speaker-2 (39:20)
I will say that the love from the local businesses around town for our push for a park has been, every time we've had an event, it's not just sponsors packages from fingerboard or skateboard brands. It's like local businesses giving us baskets from what they have, coffee shops giving out tickets and stuff like like free drinks. RV's giving out catering pretty much anybody that wants to come out there and get free food.

Like the local businesses just went full on in and it was like, we're going to back y'all no matter what. And like, you can't ask for it like that. You can't ask for love like that usually.

speaker-1 (39:54)
No, most definitely. All right. So I feel like that event, is there any other real progress that's noteworthy that needs to be mentioned between that event and a year later when you host the part two of that event?

speaker-2 (40:07)
No, the one you went to was part four of that event. We did a couple in between.

speaker-1 (40:14)
All right. We'll talk about those. Cause I feel like by the time we got to part four, the one that I attended, I feel like that was the event that like drove the skate park home.

speaker-2 (40:24)
The one you attended last year, how many of you there? Was BAM there or not BAM there? So that was after we raised all the money for the park. We did a park, it's called the park party, just celebrating that we raised the money for it. So we did two events in between there. And let me tell you what, every time we throw an event, it rains. Every.

speaker-1 (40:29)
Bam was there.

speaker-2 (40:47)
single time. like the rule number one, if you're a skateboarder, you don't get your board wet, you don't go out skating in rain. And every single time everyone that showed up there has skated in the rain. Yeah.

speaker-0 (40:55)
Just like on April 25th that shit rains. I'm gonna be so pissed off at somebody Sorry God, but I'm a little upset about you now if it's on you brother. You know what I mean like

speaker-2 (41:00)
And we're all still skating in anyway.

speaker-1 (41:07)
I'll bring a tent. I'll bring a tent to cover the park

speaker-0 (41:11)
to

bring you a set up because we're going to listen. ⁓ Well, I guess we ought to get in this a little bit. Let's let's complete this because we can get to the whole event because of a whole new lick of things we got going on.

speaker-2 (41:25)
⁓ After we did our push for the park, did one called Nightmare on Elm Street, which was a Halloween themed event. And then the next year we did Nightmare on Elm Street part two. Yeah, Skatemare on Elm Street. That's what it Skatemare on Elm Street and the Skatemare on Elm Street part two, like the second annual one. And then the last year we did the park party, which was a celebration of all the funding. And that was it.

speaker-1 (41:36)
The coffin! The coffin!

speaker-0 (41:52)
Yeah, I think so. You know I'm gonna listen I'm the clinks off on and then I'm just gonna bring a fingerboard on just fingerboard the whole time. Hold on. All right, go ahead keep talking Gary

speaker-1 (42:04)
I don't think people realize like everybody's looking on Instagram everybody's like ⁓ Gary and Sam are out there skateboarding and they're fingerboarding and I don't understand why they get to do this and nobody else gets to be part of it and stuff and I'm like I don't think people understand like how long you've been working towards this and all of the things that you had to do to get to the point to where like you can actually skate and enjoy the fruits of you guys's labor and all the hard work.

speaker-0 (42:33)
Check this out. So it may have taken us way too long to get this shit done. Like I said, there's a recipe involved, right? It made it 15, 20 years, call it whatever you want, it's done now. But here's the thing, work your ass off, do what we did. Once the, once hunger got here, we're with them every step of the way, change things, doing, hey, y'all wanna do this, y'all wanna do that, y'all wanna do this, y'all wanna do that, how you wanna do it? How's this? Does this make sense? Let's do it. Putting in real man hours on the clock there, unpaid mind you.

Nevermind the unpaid, I didn't just see you Not only were we-

speaker-2 (43:04)
We

were spending like 50, 60 dollars out of pocket a couple days a week taking all the people that is employed by Hungerscape Works coffees because it was like 10, 15 degrees outside, they're out there laying concrete and it's snowing.

speaker-0 (43:17)
Bust your ass, get a park in your town, you'll get to preview it all you want to. It's as simple as that. I wonder, why do they get to do it? Why don't you go find out why?

speaker-2 (43:28)
We also were involved in the designing of the skate park. we told them everything we wanted. We picked our favorite obstacles and stuff that we like from all skate parks all over the world because we traveled all over. And we're like, this is what we like. Let's tweak it to make it our own. But this is what we want here. This is what we want here. And then when it comes to the actual fingerboard parks, we designed those.

speaker-0 (43:46)
Dude, believe it or not, Gary had the majority, but I had a high little add into the fan boards. He was surprised at that thing.

speaker-2 (43:54)
So here's the deal, if you're finger border, you know what you want, but when you're not really a finger border, you want to have some perspective on it.

speaker-0 (44:00)
Yeah. Dude,

it was such a vibe. Like they were designing the fingerboard park and I'm like, man, am I even going to be able to contribute anything to this? Because I am going to do it a lot now. I will say that, but.

speaker-2 (44:12)
I'll say this too, this guy skated

speaker-0 (44:18)
Dude, Dawgship Park is so hard. That place is so gnarly. Yeah. I love it.

speaker-1 (44:22)
For those that don't know, it's in Berlin, which actually, I think Gary's coming with us to Fast Fingers. Sam's gonna be going?

speaker-2 (44:29)
This guy might be going too.

speaker-0 (44:30)
No.

And I got a question. Does Ramon watch this?

speaker-1 (44:34)
From time to time, yeah.

speaker-0 (44:36)
Ramon, it's quick as this! It's quick as this, Ramon!

speaker-1 (44:41)
Shout out the world champion, Ramon Angelo. Yeah, USFPL is going to be out there. Gary Sam is going to be out there. We got three national champions that we're sending out there as well.

speaker-2 (44:50)
I've that limited.

speaker-0 (44:54)
the

speaker-2 (44:55)
No, no, no, doesn't. He did his North American tour last year and whoever won it, he paid out of pocket the top three round trip tickets to Berlin to compete on his team label and his hotel, airfare, everything. He is covering it all.

speaker-1 (45:10)
sending our best team USA. Yeah, we're money grabbing whores out here. Yeah, we're money grabbing whores out here for sure. But yeah, we're putting USA on the map. We're bringing our best, the league's best finger boarders out to fast fingers 22. Hopefully they win a hopefully one of them wins. Like imagine how crazy it would be if one of our guys wins. They go to like a sanction event, they battle out regionals, go to nationals, they win it, they get sent over to Germany and they win a title. They win the

speaker-0 (45:15)
Sure.

America so land the opportunity.

speaker-1 (45:41)
Exactly, like the storyline that we just absolutely wild for that. No pressure, no pressure.

speaker-0 (45:48)
No, what? I keep wanting to go to the next guy. Go on!

speaker-2 (45:52)
So our game

on the 25th, we're gonna, we we wanna do some finger board and stuff. ⁓

speaker-0 (45:57)
It's

gotta be some sort of contest.

speaker-2 (45:59)
Do you want to host our finger board event?

speaker-1 (46:01)
do whatever you guys need me to do.

speaker-0 (46:09)
Take it! ⁓

speaker-1 (46:11)
We're going to make it. We're going to make something happen for sure. There's something we got almost a whole month basically to make something crazy. down there.

speaker-0 (46:18)
Then just

speaker-2 (46:18)
weird saying

that we always procrastinate until the week before the event and then we're already done with flyers we're done with like

speaker-1 (46:24)
I know you guys doing the thing. I'm I'm proud of you boys.

speaker-2 (46:26)
You

speaker-0 (46:27)
is like masturbation, you only fuck yourself, right? This is the first time all of the stuff that we've led up to this has been like three days before, four days before.

speaker-2 (46:40)
So

the event you were at last year, the park party, we were building the ramps in the rain three hours before it even got up.

speaker-0 (46:48)
Also

shout out Tiny Skate Shop in New Albany, Indiana, my current sponsor. Actually, this is kind of a soft release that he's my sponsor. We were talking about it. Well, people know about it, but the fact is we never put together any kind of release. And he's like, put together a release for me. And I said, well, I think if do it at the skate park opening, that would make sense. We'll see what happens. I would really like to do like a projector situation. And now that we're planning so far ahead, dude, we can probably.

pick up the movie theater and move it down there if we wanted to because it's just so much free planning.

speaker-2 (47:19)
And I got a projector at the house. can bring it.

speaker-0 (47:21)
Imagine

movie night in the creek right next to the skate park just just letting the frickin the the current run through your get your gashes

speaker-2 (47:30)
This is what happens when you have some month to find

Hear me out. How hard would this be? We were thinking about how we're going to show up to the park party. A hort?

speaker-0 (47:41)
Whoa, whoa, whoa, why that Rw? He said, why'd you stop there?

speaker-2 (47:51)
Okay, we're gonna take a treadmill, spit on it is, we're gonna take a treadmill and put some chariot wheels on it and we're gonna be running on the treadmill getting pulled up to the skate park by a horse.

speaker-1 (48:01)
So is the treadmill on wheels or are just dragging the treadmill?

speaker-0 (48:05)
I

don't know.

speaker-2 (48:06)
know

you. Whatever the horse can keep up with.

speaker-0 (48:10)
Hold on, when is the derby?

speaker-2 (48:13)
It's March 2nd.

May 2nd, May 2nd.

speaker-0 (48:17)
So we're kind of in the Derby realm here. What is it? Yeah. How long you gonna be in town? can be in town as long as he wants to, I

speaker-2 (48:26)
It looks like T-

speaker-1 (48:27)
Yeah, the tuna.

speaker-2 (48:30)
Levin's weird, dude. He's like, I was like, Levin, come down and check up on- I've got a good rental car to come down. I was like, car won't make it. It'll make it.

speaker-1 (48:35)
I drive a hooptie.

I drive a hooptie. Because we're money grabbing whores.

speaker-0 (48:41)
We used to travel.

speaker-2 (48:44)
We used to travel all the to Philly, which is like a 12 hour drive on cars without license, no insurance. We had the top cut off with some of these, we turned Jeeps into convertibles, no headlights, and we just get up and go, LeVon, you gotta live your life on the edge sometimes.

speaker-0 (48:59)
Okay

speaker-1 (49:00)
But here's the problem. There's white America where like white America can get away with that. And then there's like black America. Black America really can't get away with that.

speaker-0 (49:10)
I'm not saying I can't argue that. mean, I guess I can see the difference, but here's the thing. Somebody's got to push that envelope.

speaker-1 (49:16)
That's true, that's true. But I mean, if I rolled with you, then I'm cool because like I could just be like, dude, I'm just rolling with them.

speaker-0 (49:24)
guys

are bound for it.

speaker-2 (49:25)
You're the wisest black guy I've ever seen in life. I'm just be honest here

speaker-1 (49:28)
I'm definitely the whitest black guy you've ever met.

speaker-0 (49:30)
But it's incredible.

speaker-1 (49:33)
I don't think people can handle me am I Roz?

Yeah, man.

craziest.

Am I stupid craziest?

speaker-0 (50:03)
Yeah, yeah. That's the loudest thing that you can recall.

speaker-1 (50:07)
Alright, I'm about to tell some crazy off the wall story. only told this... I only told this story like once or twice.

speaker-0 (50:11)
Let's go.

⁓ my god, yes.

speaker-1 (50:18)
Okay, I used to live in Branson, Missouri for you guys that are familiar with me and you guys know what time it is. They were widening the strip and there was a street sign that was completely out of the ground and ⁓ I wanted that sign. It was Main Street and I still have it somewhere. I think it's a storage. I don't know if I could say that. I think that's a felony, but I wanted it and

speaker-0 (50:24)
Yeah.

You said you wanted an agency.

speaker-1 (50:48)
I went out and I grabbed it. I went out and I grabbed it and grabbed it with a buddy. And it's like, dude, we got to go get this thing. I don't think people realize like I was driving a 97 Chevy Trailblazer. And so, you know, it's like I've got hatch. And so we put all the seats down and so we're like, yeah, we're going to like go get this sign. So we go and we like get this sign. It's attached to the pole. I did not realize this pole is like 12 feet long. Like the sign is like.

super, super tall. like we put it into the Chevy Trailblazer. Like, so like the four way like sign is like literally there with the stop sign attached to it too. So like, it's like in the front seat with me, we're like all like craziness and then like the rest of the pole all the way through the back hatch and it's like dragging on the ground because it's still so long. Yeah. So are you driving? Sparks are flying. It's two o'clock in the morning, two, two thirty, like just

the wrong, it was like during the day, you probably wouldn't see sparks, but like at night you're just like, what is that? And of course, you know, stealing signs or taking signs, hella legal. And so like we're two 30 in the morning sober, thank goodness. And literally somehow made it from my downtown all the way to my apartment complex with the sign, the stop sign, the pole, the whole ordeal.

speaker-0 (52:07)
Yeah officer, what was the apartment complex? Yeah, you remember that sign that went missing? Branson, Branson, back over in Branson. Remember that shit? Yeah, I found Main Street. I know where it's at. We can finally put it back.

speaker-1 (52:22)
Yeah,

so we finally, we made it somehow. I have no idea how, and it was absolutely wild just to think that like we dragged a 12 foot long sign out of the car all the way across town, dragging sparks and stuff.

speaker-0 (52:35)
Question is it still on the 12 foot

speaker-1 (52:37)
All no, we got the proper tools and just like pulled everything off. But yeah.

speaker-2 (52:42)
Didn't we do that with a parking block and we got caught?

speaker-1 (52:49)
Yeah, everything is like so much bigger.

speaker-2 (52:51)
What

went wrong was there was an old 95 Honda Accord and this thing stuck out like three feet past the door open and we all were drunk and getting this parking block to take it to a secret skate spot.

speaker-0 (53:00)
Here's another thing. Allegedly, we would do these things called...

speaker-1 (53:03)
All this ⁓

speaker-0 (53:07)
Remember when we had the nights where you would try to gank the coolest shit and we'd bring it back you'd have X amount of time and you'd bring it back to a certain place Whoever would gank the coolest shit whether it be out of a yard or business Whatever you bring the coolest thing back We ended up making a really sick spot out of like all the stuff we took we had like lawn ornaments and like ⁓

speaker-2 (53:17)
was say

There

was the old abandoned hospital. We had that thing set up like a department building.

speaker-0 (53:38)
Yeah. We'd have street signs and fucking statues from some sort of place that had statues. free dollars.

speaker-2 (53:48)
It was great. Coffee, burgers,

Pre-vidi!

speaker-1 (53:52)
But yeah, I'm not really too wild, too crazy. I think I got one more. One more. All right. I used to have a 96 T-top Pontiac Firebird.

speaker-0 (53:59)
Spirit.

Hell yeah, my nephew's got one.

speaker-1 (54:08)
Loved it. Loved it. Got the LT1 engine in it. Stupid fast. We're downtown Branson. It's like behind the Ozark Mountain Bank downtown for anybody that lives down there. There used to be a building that got cleared out. And so like the parking lot looks like it goes flush to the like to the road, but only like a portion of it goes into the street and then like on both sides of like where the driveway kind of like goes into the road.

it drops off like two feet over like, uh, like the greats and stuff for the sewer stuff goes. And because like, you know, the sports car like just sits really, really low. I thought it all like rolled through, but I just basically like turned around in this parking lot. I drove off the side of the, or it was only like a two foot drop. So it wasn't like, it was like a SUV or anything that got, sits up a little higher. No big deal. But because it was a sports car,

I was driving like half of it, like hear all this grinding and stuff underneath the car. I'm like, dude, what the hell, course, everything at night. I got to stop driving at night. I think that's where the problems are. And so like, I'm like grinding, like all the whole undercarriage of my car. I'm like, dude, what the hell? And I'm looking over and I'm like, cause at the point, like the car is still like perfectly like horizontal. Like it's like perfectly fine. And then like,

I inched it a little bit more and then like the car like leans all the way into like the street. I'm like, holy shit. I'm like, what the hell? And I'm like, kind of like stuck. Like the ass of the car is like in the air. And I'm like, this is bad. Yeah. And so I'm like, well, I'm already like pot committed. So like I just continue to roll it out. And I thought like I was going to pull like my whole oil pan and everything underneath it. No leaks, no nothing got to the flat of the streets. But I.

speaker-0 (55:42)
What's up, baby?

speaker-1 (55:56)
Everything looks fine. I was looking under there and I'm like, everything looks fine. And so like, I'm on my way home and I live off of a T highways. So like, you know, we're hauling balls down that old highway, whatever. And like, all you hear is this pop, pop, pop, pop. And I'm like, what the hell was that? And then like the car got super loud, like muffler loud. And I was like, what? And I look at my rear view mirror.

And you can see my twin tailpipe sliding across the freaking street into the ditch. no, it's a V8 straight pipe. I mean, it was loud. yeah, I woke everybody up coming home from work. And it was like, I drove it like that, too, for like two straight months. And I used to landscape back in the day when I had that thing, too. So like, you know, up like leaving the house like 530 in the morning, just.

speaker-2 (56:34)
He was wanking everybody up.

speaker-1 (56:49)
barely touching the gas and it sounds like you're in 8500 like

speaker-0 (56:53)
Dude, I'm getting a new car because I have like a 19 Mitsu and it was my credit builder car. You know, I got it new off the lot, whatever, but cheap payments, cheap car hatchback. I'm telling you that thing's a beast, bro. It'll have too many cars, but I'm getting a VA supercharged car. My next one. I can't fucking wait. Some of my Jag, but some of these older Jag, some of these, some of the neighbors be acting up, bro. I'm telling you right now that car just fucking idling off Coldstar.

speaker-1 (57:12)
What are you getting?

speaker-0 (57:22)
is a menace. sounds exactly like a jag. Like an actual jaguar. The animal. I'm about to eat up the neighborhood,

speaker-1 (57:32)
We gotta get back on topic for sure. Back on topic. I don't know. like story time. time's not bad. Let me know in the chat if you like story time. Yeah. All kinds of story time going down today.

speaker-0 (57:41)
Success!

Are you bringing that coal ass backdrop with you? Dude, I'll the combo to you right now, watch this.

speaker-1 (57:47)
I can.

speaker-0 (57:53)
That was it, it was called the tongue flicker 5,000. Hey, shout out, hey, hey, hey, for all those that are good at you know what, you know what talking about. Shout out them Gatorade bottles back in the day. And twist top, as a kid you sit there and you just strave. Damn you. Like this and this. You know what I mean?

speaker-1 (57:55)
One Flicker ⁓

Are you drinking on a lot? Is

that an Alani? Well, what if it was? You mean like you mean like like that? Are we Alani bros?

speaker-0 (58:22)
Hey, tears, Yeah, Right now. What'd you just. I don't know, I'd just be doing it. Here's the thing, LeVon, I've been running my ass off, hence my sweet medallions. I'm trying to intake less calories where I can shave them, but damn, do I love some double cheeseburgers, brother. I love me some double cheeseburgers, bro. I've been on a kick. And ain't nothing makes you more appetite than either a long day of skating, long day of running, or ball.

speaker-1 (58:24)
Bloody Bros!

Let's do it!

speaker-2 (58:31)
You're not super

speaker-0 (58:51)
So, no, no, I'm gonna take a day off.

speaker-2 (58:53)
You're going

speaker-1 (58:58)
Man, sometimes those are good. All right, so we've got...

skate parks building this skate park in your city. We've got, I know we're building it. It's built. We've got an official launch grand opening day.

speaker-2 (59:16)
Yes, we've been cutting with the town April 24th. That's Friday at noon. The skate park will be officially open that day and we are throwing our party on the 25th at 2 PM.

speaker-0 (59:28)
So I'll give you a little backstory that said we had a new town manager come in ⁓ this this woman ⁓

speaker-2 (59:39)
We've went through like five town managers now before this before this lady spit on me I don't know. It's I mean somewhere

speaker-0 (59:48)
don't gonna in the right spot if you're gonna lube it, dammit. I hate that. Geez Louise.

speaker-2 (59:54)
So,

speaker-0 (59:55)
We went through

speaker-2 (59:57)
The first lady that we dropped the funds with, then we had the new guy that I got into it with that got the park rolling.

speaker-0 (1:00:03)
I didn't

go through no lady apathy. I'm saying thank you.

speaker-2 (1:00:05)
We had

that guy step down, I think because of his age, then we had another guy step up. Every single one these town managers from the get-go was like, if there's anything that does the same right with this whole thing, whether it's design in the park, the community, whatever, we'll scrap it, start it over, you guys know what you want. So we went through, that guy finally stepped down, then we had another person step up, and then they, newest person, just left last month. And that gets us to this part of the story. We were super close with every single town manager, every...

speaker-0 (1:00:34)
That's the last one. Okay, he did.

speaker-2 (1:00:35)
He grew into it.

He even funded part of it. I didn't realize that he was on the phone. did donations. Yeah. So, uh, every like we got super close to every single one. Everyone knew our involvement knew that like we were the people behind it. We raised the money. We, you know, we raised the grants, the self-funding, 1.5 to $1.6 million in total.

speaker-0 (1:00:43)
Okay, well shout out Bruce then.

Listen, we wouldn't have to say none of this. I know. If we didn't have a weird start with the newest town manager. Listen, she's fantastic. She's great now. will never, we're not gonna sit here and dog her one bit, but I will say, it was a very weird situation just right off the

speaker-2 (1:01:15)
Before you tell this, Levine messaged me and he goes like, what's going on with your tent? he's like, I've seen a post talking shit about the skate park.

speaker-0 (1:01:19)
next day.

Listen, I don't sweat nothing. All right. So what happened was we had the we went to this meeting when we went and met her the day before essentially.

speaker-2 (1:01:33)
Because

we need an opening date, we need to know for sure because we have big name guests coming in. We have to finalize the date.

speaker-0 (1:01:38)
BAM

Roger Danny Dungans about an 85 % possibility. I have my buddy Justin Nunley ain't Justin danger I'm gonna show you video online, but go ahead you want to continue

speaker-2 (1:01:43)
You know who Jess Nimley is?

this.

Yeah, so he might be coming there. We got a host. This is only the people that were like.

speaker-0 (1:01:53)
There's no guarantee for the last couple, but pretty optimal.

speaker-1 (1:01:57)
So you're saying Bamajara for sure is coming out there and you've got a couple people that are more or less probably going to be there as well.

speaker-2 (1:02:06)
Yeah,

they can't 100 % confirm so we can't 100 % confirm but they both 100 % want to be there.

speaker-0 (1:02:11)
So I don't know if you all know this guy.

speaker-1 (1:02:16)
yeah, yeah, yeah.

speaker-0 (1:02:17)
no, I once. That guy.

speaker-1 (1:02:19)
Yeah, he's going to be there as well.

1926

by Alabama football player named Benjamin Russell Jr.

speaker-0 (1:02:30)
you do. So it is like, it'll show like a preview of a what the hell video and then it'd be like

speaker-1 (1:02:35)
Hip hop

speaker-0 (1:02:37)
You

know, and give you a good fact. And I learned shit from him. He's my mentor, essentially. No, he's great. He did some things with me in my business and we just just kicked it off, man. Real recognized real, guess. He's so awesome, bro. He's so, dude, he's so legit in person and that it's hard to find amongst the celebrity status. It's really hard to find people who are not just so fake with it, man. And that's why you got Bam.

speaker-1 (1:02:50)
That's crazy you know how.

speaker-0 (1:03:07)
Danny Duncan's real, and then that dude, those three, if we can get, if all three of those guys show up, bloodbath, it's gonna be crazy.

speaker-1 (1:03:15)
It's already always crazy. Even the last part four that I went to, like, shut down an entire street and 10 % of the city population was there.

speaker-2 (1:03:27)
Let me ask you this, was that one of the gnarliest fingerboard events you've ever been to?

speaker-1 (1:03:31)
That was the gnarliest fingerboarding skateboarding event I've ever like seen that wasn't actually at a skate park. Like the fact that you just shut down the street, you've got a quarter pipe with an extended rail that goes out like six feet past like the coping on it and all that. And people are literally like just grinding at the flat and just doing crazy stuff.

speaker-2 (1:03:54)
We had Paul Bearers bring in a coffin?

speaker-1 (1:03:56)
Yeah,

you had the coffin and wow, you got people kick flipping over you guys on the coffin and all that stuff off the kicker and all that. I'm like, man, this is wild out here.

speaker-2 (1:04:04)
So if that was a 10 out of 10, this one's gonna be a 20 out of 10. I promise this one's.

speaker-1 (1:04:08)
I believe it, I believe it.

speaker-0 (1:04:09)
Isn't it probably to give us a heads up?

speaker-1 (1:04:12)
I'm excited. This is how excited I am. And this is kind of crazy. I sold my fingerboard con ticket because it's on the same weekend.

speaker-0 (1:04:20)
RIP

to that ticket, but it don't fucking mean you're gonna be there.

speaker-1 (1:04:24)
Yeah, I will definitely be there. I'll definitely be there.

speaker-0 (1:04:26)
I

a lot of people sold them fingered condom tickets or whatever. But for real, back to it. So Sheree, I don't want to get her name wrong. I respect her a lot now.

speaker-2 (1:04:39)
What did you see first? What did you see on Facebook?

speaker-1 (1:04:42)
As far as.

speaker-0 (1:04:43)
The situation regarding this thing. Like the time, the date and stuff.

speaker-1 (1:04:48)
So here's what I saw. saw you guys know, I saw hunger saying that they were going to open on the 25th. And then I saw you guys post that you guys were doing something, I think on the 25th, like a video of it talking about like you guys are going to do something on that weekend. And then I saw the city come out and say, no, we haven't officially launched it. Anything that you guys see on social media.

is not true unless it comes from this page and then that's when i'm like reached out to gary and i was just like dude what the what is

speaker-2 (1:05:24)
We met them on a Tuesday and then we posted up the, cause we were like, we went down and talked to the new lady. We introduced ourselves cause we never met her before. She's not even from locally our town. She's from Illinois and we're in Southern Indiana. So we went and introduced ourselves and we like, we just need an opening date. And I don't know if she thought we were just random skaters excited for the park or what, but she goes, well, I'm meeting the skate park. Some of the people at the skate park tomorrow just to see what all we need to do before we open it. And we were like, well, we're going to show.

speaker-0 (1:05:50)
Yeah, we basically said, well, we're going to be.

speaker-2 (1:05:52)
Yeah,

and I think at this point she doesn't know who we are so we ⁓ we went and met up with them last that next day at 8 in the morning Which we got up super early for and cancel over

speaker-0 (1:06:01)
No, he called me. was like, I thought this was a joke.

speaker-2 (1:06:05)
We show up and then we're like we're shooting for the we want to do April 11th or the 18th Yeah, and she goes like they got a sawed the ground and make sure everything sticks then

speaker-0 (1:06:14)
This

is everybody together, the people who are doing the grounds, the people who doing the new fence, the people who are thinking about doing the curbing that goes along the state highway there.

speaker-2 (1:06:24)
This is like the entire bit of the town.

And ⁓ they're like, well, we're going to do the 25th. Those days are too soon. We're going to do the 25th. And I'm like, perfect.

speaker-0 (1:06:32)
Yeah, and she literally looks at that and says, guys, 25th looks good. And we're like, looks good means it's great, so we're good to go. now we might've been a little preemptive as far as putting it out there, but we ended up putting out there saying, and I did probably more so than even probably Kerry, because I did a couple of clips of the skateboard, I'm like, April 25th's the day it's gonna be. Even think of this, April 25th's the day it's gonna be. And then all of a sudden, I guess they finally saw it, or she finally saw it, and she was like, guys.

Hell no, this is, know, and then what you've seen on there and then we got emails and we were taken to this.

speaker-2 (1:07:05)
if you're not with the Harrison County, like the Chamber of Commerce, Main Street, Corden or the Town Hall, you're pretty much nobody in this situation. You don't have me say like that. They were like telling people not to listen to the Corden Skatepark page. It's not going to be on the 25th. And then that following day, we went to the Town Board meeting.

speaker-0 (1:07:22)
Yeah, so that's what did it was like they said that and then like it might have been two days one day whatever later we were like I said Gary screw this we're going to this town meeting I mean we're gonna go ahead and make sure this is hashed out well we had somebody else ⁓ Janelle she's incredible

speaker-2 (1:07:39)
She

had mainstream court, she helped us from the get-go, and now she moved up to the Chamber of Commerce and she's over.

speaker-0 (1:07:44)
Give her five to ten years she'll probably run this town. She is she is so she's exactly driven thorough and Exclamatory like the way she insists on everything

speaker-2 (1:07:48)
Driven.

She's

not like a typical politician. more like, she started out like us where she was doing her own projects and just kind of moved up. So she's not like core like, I'm with the town. She's like, better than the town.

speaker-0 (1:08:06)
built. She been built around this town. the thing is, is so I go to this meeting and then it's like, so I guess Janelle talking to the new town manager, Shuri.

speaker-2 (1:08:16)
Town

Hall page was getting so much hate. Yes for them. Yeah, they turned off comments on the post and they were like they were like

speaker-0 (1:08:24)
We don't believe the down hall. We believe the court escape our. What does that?

speaker-2 (1:08:29)
they were like we're gonna believe Sam and Gary over the government any day. They deleted comments, they turned a whole bunch of stuff off and then I think someone told her about us because we went in there to that meeting. Yeah so we went in there and like as soon as we walked in that meeting it was hey guys what's up like the attitude completely changed.

speaker-0 (1:08:40)
100 % cheated.

And I'm in there, bro. And I'm like, I go in there and Gary was kind of reeling me a little bit because I was like, dude, I'm going there. I'm going to say some crazy

speaker-2 (1:08:56)
I was pissed. I was already like burning the building down. Like they were they said they were worried that people was gonna show up and riot. The town was they 100 % said that.

speaker-0 (1:09:06)
along with maybe the Janelle, the good one at the time, which I'll never say Sheree was bad. was just, do you call that? It's not a hateful thing to say, it's just a genuine thing.

speaker-2 (1:09:12)
But now she's two out ten.

It's just that she didn't know

who he was. She thought we were just a couple excited skaters. But now she's like 100 % backing us. She's sharing our posts now.

speaker-0 (1:09:30)
So with Janelle saying stuff, the feedback from the town itself on that post and everything, she understood that. I think Janelle talked a lot on here and then I think Janelle essentially pitched with her the idea of 24th being the ribbon cutting. And I'm in there, dude, I'm ready to go. like, I wore my Sunday's best, I was ready to do it, dude. And then she said 24th is the ribbon cutting for the donors. So more professional, obviously. And then they literally go, and then the 25th?

That could be Sam and Gary's party. And we're like, where's that back?

speaker-2 (1:10:06)
We were going to prepare everything. We wanted to finalize the date and everything because it was already told for us. And she even admitted she told us that.

speaker-0 (1:10:12)
We

were gonna say like, why are you acting like that on the Facebook post? That's crazy talk!

speaker-1 (1:10:18)
I

was very unprofessional in my

speaker-2 (1:10:20)
Exactly.

speaker-0 (1:10:21)
Yeah, and when we went to, it was like the situation when we went to the town meeting where all the money got approved was the entire project was $1.3 million plus. That doesn't, the skate park was $350,000, right? Everything else around it, parking and everything, it was a million three. So when we went to that meeting, when it got approved before the park party, we were like, we were sitting there, didn't know what to expect. And then all of sudden they said, well, we got money here, we got money here. Let's put that money towards the-

speaker-2 (1:10:49)
Remember

when I said that they had like 350,000 left over from that 2 million? They took that last bit of money and put it in that nest what got us over the threshold of what we needed for the entire

speaker-0 (1:10:59)
So the same dumb found we were is the same dumb found at this meeting when they said we know we were in there ⁓ And they were like 24th is the professional ribbon cutting for the donors the 25th the salmon Gary's party and we're like we're looking at you like

speaker-2 (1:11:14)
I'm like, you know how dumb the hell it's gonna look when they say they were right all along?

speaker-0 (1:11:18)
And a shout out to the greatest comment I've seen when we posted and it said the 25th was the actual day.

speaker-2 (1:11:26)
filmed a video because we all the people involved got together it was Chamber of Commerce, Main Street Cordon, the City Town Hall, me and Sam and we all got together and before I left I was like we are filming a video so we don't look so disorganized on Facebook that we're all in unison on these days we're all together we're all working together and we made that video that you probably seen of us talking about it's official it's happening it is the 25th tell them about the first comment

speaker-0 (1:11:52)
The first comment was, I don't believe anything out. The first comment said, the town of Cordon plays checkers, Sam and Gary play chess. I was like, dude, within like two minutes of posting it, somebody commented that. I mean, we know them, but nobody, like we instigated to say something like that. I was like, are you kidding me?

speaker-2 (1:11:54)
This is great. I want to get

Dude, it's so crazy the amount of support we've got from the town over this. Not just like what we're talking about right now, but just us working with the skate park project. The town hall people said that we are the voice of the city. I love it.

speaker-1 (1:12:27)
bit.

speaker-0 (1:12:28)
Our next goal is probably a dog park, I will say that.

speaker-2 (1:12:30)
Yeah, we're going to try to get a dog partner next because there's a need for that too.

speaker-0 (1:12:33)
I

want to get a dog park before my dog dies. I got an older husky. She needs to enjoy a park made for her. Listen, we run this whole thing to do and tell him done did what we wanted to do.

speaker-2 (1:12:45)
wanna see something court and pitch is not to propose to the town hall.

speaker-1 (1:12:48)
Gary and Sammy are the go-to for that.

speaker-2 (1:12:50)
Talking about prices here, so the skate park itself was like what, $3.50? But Levine, have you heard how much the fingerboard parks cost?

speaker-1 (1:12:57)
I have, and I'm actually excited to talk about this.

speaker-2 (1:13:01)
Did you hear it from us or somebody else?

speaker-1 (1:13:03)
I heard it from... There's a skate shop down the street. What's this? What's one of the skate shops down the street? One of the guys there is talking to me. No, ⁓ closest to Corden.

speaker-0 (1:13:13)
It ran in my life.

speaker-2 (1:13:17)
Right?

speaker-0 (1:13:19)
Tiny? No, no, no.

speaker-2 (1:13:22)
Demented is who you talk to. They're out of Ohio.

speaker-1 (1:13:23)
Yeah,

I talked to them and somehow they those because they work with hunger Yeah, so that's I was talking to him. That's right. And he told me he told me that these were like 30 what 30 grand a piece

speaker-2 (1:13:38)
Yeah. 30, 35? It's for the both of them.

speaker-0 (1:13:39)
It was about 70.

speaker-1 (1:13:43)
So we're talking about two parks that are roughly $35,000 apiece.

speaker-2 (1:13:50)
That's not just including the physical, the concrete, the metal and everything. That's the man hours that it took these guys to build that around the clock, 8 a.m. to 12 p.m. at night a couple of times for a couple of weeks straight. The extensities, is that a word? Extensity?

speaker-0 (1:14:09)
anyone you want to. Works

have to be made up every day. I think description is important.

speaker-2 (1:14:13)
Extensi-

speaker-1 (1:14:17)
Here's something that's not made up is that I would go out on a limb and say that these parks are the most expensive fingerboarding parks in the world.

speaker-0 (1:14:28)
YES!

speaker-2 (1:14:29)
100%. And they weren't built like a typical fingerboard park. They were built like a skate park. Every bit of it has perfect curved radiuses. It's built from like welded wires. And we could post a video right now if you're watching that video of it. Here's what the skeleton of these parks look

speaker-0 (1:14:45)
man

he ⁓

speaker-2 (1:14:48)
Normal. Yeah.

You can drop an atomic bomb in these parts, they're not going anywhere.

speaker-0 (1:14:55)
You're gonna see some roaches out there. Cause you know how roach is beef.

speaker-1 (1:15:00)
built to last. Yeah, we're talking about the most expensive fingerboarding parks in the world happen to be in Indiana, our home state, which is pretty crazy. Two and a half hours from me. Third foot 15 minutes on the street for you guys, which is crazy.

speaker-2 (1:15:13)
It's

hard even.

speaker-0 (1:15:14)
15 minutes? I could skate there in four minutes from here, probably.

speaker-1 (1:15:18)
Hey,

buddy, that's wild.

speaker-2 (1:15:20)
And

if I drop 100 miles per hour, I'll get there in five minutes.

speaker-1 (1:15:23)
All right, but we're talking about like, this is now a tourist destination for finger boarding. Like I feel like people will come from all over the place to go shred this. I mean, it's outside, it's outdoor. I mean, does the park have like actual hours or is it like?

speaker-2 (1:15:39)
That is undecided right now, but there's 24-7 lives.

speaker-1 (1:15:43)
So mean, theoretically, as long as the park is open, mean, you can just freely casually just pull up and sash.

speaker-2 (1:15:49)
Me and him has been going and finger boarding at like 2 3 a.m. numerous times now.

speaker-0 (1:15:53)
Now the light situation currently, I don't know how they're gonna finish it, they're gonna add any. The light situation favors all the fingerboard areas and the bowl. But aside from the farther, the opposite end, there is no light situation for that right now, although the light obviously bleeds over there, it's kinda doable. I don't know if they're gonna add in the light poles that we first suspected, but right now, fingerboarding all through the hours of the.

speaker-2 (1:16:22)
The half, because only, like, the whole park's lit up, but like, half of it is really lit up. Yeah. And the half that's really lit up, the fingerboard parks are directly under two of the light posts.

speaker-0 (1:16:32)
You're

like, man, looks like it's right here. I mean, this sucker's right above your head. You know what I mean? Crazy.

speaker-2 (1:16:40)
We were saying that they were some of the biggest in the world, but the more I thought of it, the ASI shop, those parks wrap around the entire basement. Yeah. The one in Yellowwood Park, someone said that that park's pretty long too. But I know that's...

speaker-0 (1:16:49)
in early yeah

speaker-1 (1:16:56)
It looks really long as well. I don't know how.

But yeah, Sabre Lynch does wrap all the way around to as an L. I don't know.

speaker-2 (1:17:09)
I guarantee you, none of them are built like this one though.

speaker-0 (1:17:12)
This thing, dude, I swear to God, I could drop in on the actual quarters. I'm not going to, promise, what's up with this? So what are you doing in Germany?

speaker-2 (1:17:20)
fast fingers is ⁓ black river is like, they only do it every two years and it's like where they go to pick up the new world champion for finger boarding. Like people from all over the world.

speaker-1 (1:17:21)
Fingers, it's a world.

speaker-0 (1:17:30)
the current World Champ.

speaker-1 (1:17:32)
Yeah, your boy. here's the thing. Here's where the... But here's the crazy part is that a German has basically always won, or I wouldn't say a German, but a Black River rider has basically always won the world championship for like as long as I can remember. And I'm not having it. I'm just not having it. So when you went out, we did regionals and nationals. I'm bringing the three of our best riders out to hopefully...

speaker-0 (1:17:36)
Yes or no?

Yes.

speaker-1 (1:18:01)
USFPL is bringing the heat. We're bringing the best of the best from America to beat the Germans.

speaker-0 (1:18:07)
This is ⁓

speaker-2 (1:18:21)
Send

that to all the Black River

speaker-0 (1:18:24)
I got German descent. I'm from my family's from Dusseldorf.

speaker-2 (1:18:28)
We're both German anyway, we just got stuck living in America.

speaker-0 (1:18:32)
Black... ...Style... ...Style River!

speaker-1 (1:18:38)
I'm excited. We're ⁓

speaker-0 (1:18:41)
God damn it.

speaker-2 (1:18:48)
me

tell you what, don't use my fix.

asking how much he ended up paying for our Berlin trip.

speaker-0 (1:19:00)
my god, thousands on one car. I'm not kidding you. It was probably supposed to be, I don't know, seven, 800 bucks. It was two grand plus at one point. I think I got some of it back, but dude, I'm still getting, I guess I ran through some sort of a speed cam or some shit, so I'm still getting cooked on that.

speaker-2 (1:19:21)
And then he got charged for going in and out of countries. went from.

speaker-0 (1:19:24)
Germany. ⁓

speaker-2 (1:19:30)
No, Holland is now the Netherlands. We went through Belgium, we went to France, and we just got charged up to ask for every single one we went to.

speaker-1 (1:19:37)
That's crazy.

speaker-0 (1:19:39)
I ain't paying it.

speaker-2 (1:19:40)
I think it was even crazier. We were in a random skate park in Dusseldorf and they had a fingerboard park connected and I was out there fingerboarding. Somebody's like, is that, your name Gary? And I'm like, it was, it blew my mind. This like 12 year old kid recognized me in Dusseldorf.

speaker-0 (1:19:53)
What?

speaker-1 (1:19:55)
That's crazy. You're a celeb, bro. You're him.

speaker-2 (1:19:58)
Him's the band called His Infernal ⁓

speaker-1 (1:20:04)
Woo! An episode! It has been an episode!

speaker-2 (1:20:07)
I'm

not gonna lie, we've been tainting this one, we've been trying to be good at it.

speaker-1 (1:20:09)
Actually,

yeah, even did all the scammers. I was expecting... I don't know what I was expecting. I mean, last time I saw you guys, I mean, I saw a booty hole, like, I saw all kinds of crazy stuff.

speaker-0 (1:20:18)
Yeah, I will say this though. The backing off on like, listen, we've been a little bit tame even throughout our town to just make sure that we uphold. Here's another thing, if you're us, you we had to literally scale back the thing.

speaker-2 (1:20:34)
The

town asked us, they were like, you guys are the face of a multi-million dollar project. Don't do something stupid and it causes you lose all this money.

speaker-0 (1:20:39)
This

dickhead on the first thing we did right before we had our real big meeting that got the skate park kicked off and commenced.

speaker-2 (1:20:49)
It was the town meeting that we got approved.

speaker-0 (1:20:51)
I

know, but right before it, I was like, well, we're gonna hang this, I was like, fuck Christmas lights, because they light up cordon downtown and they did all the band kids in the school takes the time and lights up all the freaking lights. It is beautiful.

speaker-2 (1:21:05)
If

anybody's watching, Gordon, Indiana is like the town from Gilmore Girls. hometown feel that's like everybody knows everybody. It's like...

speaker-0 (1:21:13)
Has a square. The square is the life of the dam. 100 % and it will be. It will be. In a different way. But so I was like, Gary, let's build this, let's build this light up dick out of Christmas lights. So we took coat hangers and made this giant 8, 10, 12 foot, I don't even know, huge dick you had to put on top of your car to get it there. And what we did is they just had lit up the cordon, which is a big hoorah. It's a big thing for us.

speaker-2 (1:21:17)
Or an Indiana can be a sitcom. ⁓

speaker-0 (1:21:43)
for the town. And then late at night we go out and we find this one perfect tree right on the main road that's lit up. We unplug that, go up, take this giant dick Christmas light thing up, and then plug it in where the other lights were plugged in. And all lights go out. Here's a big dick lit up in the tree.

speaker-1 (1:22:04)
And you're just driving around town just with a lit up penis.

speaker-2 (1:22:07)
Is how-

speaker-0 (1:22:07)
It

was up in the tree! was up in the tree! Not but what, probably three days after that is when we had that meeting, maybe a week?

speaker-2 (1:22:10)
It was hum for sure.

The cops got involved in everything. The cops showed up at his house. were like, we just have so many complaints and we thought we were going go to jail. They're like, we think it's funny, but we got a lot of Karen's naysaying about it.

speaker-0 (1:22:25)
So what happened, I'll give you the full, so I have an apartment at the time, the cops come, I'm with my son and then my fiance's out doing a crossfit, like a workout class, and I'm like, hey, I call her, I see on my ring doorbell that the freaking cops are out front, I knew why, duh, so I call her, I say, hey, you gotta probably come up here, cops are here, I'm probably gonna go to jail. And they answer the door, they're laughing on the camera and everything else, I'm watching them, and I got the video of it, and.

I opened the door and laughed, I opened the door and said, hey, I think you know why I'm here. And I'm like, yeah, there's a guy and a girl. they go, listen, we got a call. We have to come make contact, but you know, and we're like, I'm like, what? And like, you know, it's really, really fun. I swear to God, this is exactly how they said, they go, you know, it's really, really funny what y'all did, but we had some calls about it, so.

You know, and they're laughing. That's all they said. I was like, OK. OK, so they're like, yeah, just. You know, I'm not kidding. Shoot me down now if I'm lying. That's exactly what they said. They never said I couldn't do it again. They never said that it could happen. It was illegal. They said, you know, and they're laughing the entire time.

speaker-2 (1:23:30)
You know.

So I'm like.

speaker-0 (1:23:50)
And then a week later, we go to this important meeting.

speaker-2 (1:23:54)
To celebrate our victory, got shirts made up that said, cramp the stupid. And it was just a big picture of the dick hanging from the tree.

speaker-0 (1:24:01)
And Gary thinks it's a great idea to wear this. So we're under a button up for our very first really important meeting.

speaker-2 (1:24:05)
Button up shirt.

So

during the meeting we found

speaker-1 (1:24:12)
You're do like the Superman where you're just like, yeah, by the way

speaker-2 (1:24:18)
We got up there and we officially got everything going. They're like, it's official, we're gonna build the park. And I look out at the congregation, I look at everybody, I yank my shirt up and I was like, yeah, because if you don't do that, if we don't have a skate park, this is what people around town is gonna do. And it was like a standing ovation. That's how we run the town around here, boys.

speaker-0 (1:24:38)
Dog Park, circa 2027. In India.

speaker-2 (1:24:41)
It's on record, that was during the town hall meeting. You can't make that stuff up.

speaker-1 (1:24:46)
We're just going to go back and look at the meetings, the meeting minutes.

speaker-0 (1:24:50)
They actually do them live now. I did see that. So that's cool. And I guess you can get that. You can see the recording of it. pretty bad ass, honestly. I mean, we're getting to know what the 20 whatever century 20th. mean, with with live videos, I mean, it's like the journey. It's like one or two back.

speaker-2 (1:25:01)
Twenty seconds, right?

I gotta tell you something funny. I posted that video, the one that I shared on Instagram, I posted up in the finger boarded limited Facebook page. I was like, hey, check out these parks, we're gonna open it up here soon. These parks cost 70,000 plus dollars. I was getting so much hate, they like, that's some bullshit. Those parks cost like $5,000 each. Someone pocketed all this money. And it was all nothing but hate comments. gonna do a video now. A bunch of pussy flittin' haters out

speaker-0 (1:25:29)
I'm

gonna say like this, one thing I've noticed, lot of them finger boarders are a bunch of bitches. I'm gonna say that out loud. Listen, shut the fuck up, all right? Or do something about it. Fingers turn into fists. No, I'm just kidding.

speaker-2 (1:25:42)
Dude, there's Bob-omb on his hand. Let's dance!

speaker-0 (1:25:44)
No,

some people are fucking are kind of crazy. Some people. Hey, I'm just saying it's kind of like behind the like behind that. It's just why you could use your fingers. I'll tell you, you little punk bitch.

speaker-2 (1:25:51)
Here's what it is, here's what it is. You gotta think.

Skateboarding is is a hard sport, you know If you want to be big in the skateboarding scene, you got to be really good at what you do a fingerboard anybody can be big and fingerboard it all you got to do is sit there and do a couple pickups all about editing yourself that gives so many people an egotistical mentality to where they think that they're better than other people because their video gets more likes on Instagram it blows people's egos out of proportion and next thing you they're on their keyboard warriors these perks don't cost no $70,000

speaker-0 (1:26:09)
You can be big in the finger boarding.

So.

Give me three months at our crazy ass. Professionally done skate parks. I'll break one of my fingers and I will out fingerboard you. Dude.

speaker-2 (1:26:39)
What happened to the footage? We filmed a video back in the day where I went to the ER over a fingerboard.

speaker-0 (1:26:44)
You went to the ER so many times in one year span that you had to go back.

speaker-2 (1:26:50)
I had, I felt bankruptcy because I went to the ER so many times in one year.

speaker-0 (1:26:55)
The bank grew up the bank. The ER one time because somebody redid this. Let me tell you something. Similarly, somebody redid this where they put a BB in the cheek. It was called Cheek to Cheek. We did this years ago. Somebody read it on Instagram. I will. I will shout out. Hell yeah, because they actually bit the bit the BB and actually said that we did it first. They totally ripped this idea off of us. We've had it done so many times.

speaker-1 (1:27:23)
So you shoot through one cheek and it goes out the other cheek?

speaker-0 (1:27:28)
I'm sorry, barrel threw my cheek. He got up, put his ass out, it went through my cheek and into his ass cheek.

speaker-2 (1:27:35)
10 inches of asphabetic sit in this cold spot.

speaker-0 (1:27:38)
You

ain't got no fatty like that. We're eating lots. That is like, hold on, hold hold hold on. Keep going, keep talking, got like, keep talking, hold on. It's fucked, fuck that.

speaker-2 (1:27:44)
Do you

speaker-1 (1:27:48)
no, it's happening again! Booty holes!

speaker-2 (1:27:52)
Oh no, oh, we're getting tape measure. We're gonna measure my ass cheek. yeah, I went to the ER that night because I thought for sure the pellet came out and I was like, no, it feels weird there. One guy had an x-ray and they said that pellet was that close to my spine. They were like, if you would've shot it a little bit farther in there, it could've caused severe damage. I was like, well, how do I get it out there? like, well, it's a severe surgery, know, blah, blah, blah, blah. It costs like 10,000 extra dollars. I'm like, just leave it in there. I don't know if it ever came out, if it's still in there, if it disappeared or what.

speaker-1 (1:28:19)
All right, we've got to plug this event one last time.

speaker-2 (1:28:23)
Alright, let's see here. Let me read my flyer here. ⁓ Our flyer is already good because it's AI.

speaker-0 (1:28:27)
⁓ by the way

All right, let's see, stand up. You all see this is an American standard tape measure.

speaker-1 (1:28:43)
Pretty obvious. ⁓

speaker-0 (1:28:46)
I can give him an extra three inches and I'm do nothing. All right, so, tell your asshole somewhere right. Come on! Hold on, so I'll give you half of your thigh meat, okay? Half of the thigh is very feasible. Six, seven, come on, Yeah, wrap around. What the fuck? 25, 35, 36.

speaker-2 (1:28:59)
⁓

speaker-1 (1:29:12)
Audio listeners Gary's got his ass out Sam is measuring his ass

speaker-0 (1:29:17)
Here, hang on, let's shove this in and see how deep it goes. Look, his butt hole goes deeper than the damn ass cheek goes, I promise you that. Anyway, I know, because I've had tenons in there before. I'm just kidding. God, let's get that reverse started.

speaker-2 (1:29:35)
⁓ and Levine needs a plug for the event. here we I'm reading.

speaker-0 (1:29:37)
What do mean pluck?

speaker-1 (1:29:40)
Get the plug out, get the plug out.

speaker-0 (1:29:42)
Hit the plug out. All right, ready? All right.

speaker-2 (1:29:44)
Here we go.

Sam McGurr presents the Corden Skate Park opening party, April 25th at 2 p.m. It is brought on by Harrison County Community Foundation, Patronicity Resources, IHCDA, which I think has something to do with Main Street Corden, House Productions, Harrison County Chamber of Commerce, then we got Hay Omer Grant and Design Company. This says, this event will be recorded and documented, so comment.

speaker-0 (1:29:58)
Indiana ⁓

The fucking document video

speaker-2 (1:30:13)
...out

and be a part of Gordon's history and the rest will be...

speaker-0 (1:30:15)
Here

you go. Here you go, bro. Let's switch roles. I'm tired. You are invited to come celebrate. yeah? The Grim, skateboard and fingerboard contests. He's going to have something to do with it. Giveaways and cash prizes. Money sign, money sign, money sign, money sign. I have a money sign. You want to see it? Yes or no?

speaker-1 (1:30:28)
I am. I am.

I've seen everything else, might as well- I mean, there's not much left. no! I lied!

speaker-0 (1:30:44)
That's a money wanna blow some money? No, no, Fine for the hole! We can't put this right after that. That don't work. ⁓

We can't put that right after.

speaker-1 (1:31:02)
Just like that we're demonetized.

speaker-0 (1:31:05)
Hot scene, Levine, Lisa, great, you won. Special guest, Bam Margera and others, that includes potentially. It's not guaranteed guys, these motherfuckers live on a whim, I don't know why. Danny Duncan, Justin Danger, none of the, hell yeah. Fun for the whole family, DJ in music with a K. That's German, German. ⁓ okay. That's the Corden Skatepark opening party, Dietz, y'all, April 25th at 2 p.m. ⁓ did I miss that?

speaker-2 (1:31:32)
And it is located at 701

East Chestnut Street, Cordon, Indiana, 47.

speaker-0 (1:31:37)
Wait,

let's do this. Let's do it. Seven, ⁓ one, eight, same. It's in the game.

speaker-1 (1:31:43)
All Be there at B square. We've got an entire brand new skate park. If you're a skater, come out. If you're not a skater, definitely come out for a finger board.

speaker-0 (1:31:52)
You

better bring your ass, I got something to say.

speaker-1 (1:31:54)
All the haters, all the skaters, all the fingerboarders, all the naysayers.

speaker-0 (1:31:59)
Who's the PNW homies? All the PNW homies are pulling up. The finger borders? Dude, we just got a message based on that exact thing we said.

speaker-2 (1:32:09)
That's for different event. Never mind.

speaker-0 (1:32:11)
That's they are coming out

speaker-2 (1:32:14)
It's probably coming to you.

speaker-1 (1:32:16)
Yeah, definitely come out. shout out. I'm excited. I'm excited.

speaker-0 (1:32:21)
I'm excited to see you. I miss you.

speaker-1 (1:32:23)
I

know I miss you guys too. I miss you guys.

speaker-2 (1:32:25)
expect

from this event, to honest.

speaker-0 (1:32:27)
and how long you need

speaker-1 (1:32:28)
The

vibes, tons of crazy antics, tons of skating.

speaker-0 (1:32:33)
Listen, I'm

the vibrator and I'm going to give this preemptive and I never preemptively vibrate. ⁓ 10 vibes out of 10. Without a doubt in my heart, I'll give 10 more the day of.

speaker-1 (1:32:36)
Yeah.

I like that vibe setting.

speaker-0 (1:32:54)
It's gonna be savage.

speaker-1 (1:32:55)
I love it. love it. All right. Where can people find you guys on the internet? What's the, what's the new handle for some of the

speaker-2 (1:33:01)
and

now start over.

speaker-0 (1:33:03)
Go on, Dan. What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?

speaker-2 (1:33:09)
SHOCK MY ARM!

speaker-1 (1:33:13)
You're electrocuted? You alright?

speaker-0 (1:33:16)
I think I had some water on my hands. All right. All right. A little bit more finesse. I did. think. Plug, plug, plug. Safety first. right.

speaker-2 (1:33:25)
Pull the button! This finger touched... Blue Baguette!

D

HarryGrams22

on Instagram, Sam underscore Miller 69 on Instagram. And then we have a new channel now that we're posting unanimously from, HarryTwins underscore official.

speaker-0 (1:33:48)
The terror twins. The only other terror twins that I've seen, because I was curious about this, is some sort of s- sexual girls. they're like twerking and shit. We're not those. We're the fellas. We're the terror twins fellas.

speaker-2 (1:34:00)
Fuck!

We kinda got that name based off of Molly Crew back in the 80s. Nikki Sixx and Tommy Lee would just cause chaos and terror everywhere they went. So they got nicknamed the Terror Twins and then we acquired that nickname because they're not causing too much terror.

speaker-0 (1:34:19)
Well, it's not even that we cause better terror for a lot less money or poor care

speaker-1 (1:34:23)
They gotta put up or move out the way.

speaker-0 (1:34:25)
Yeah, by the way, Nikki Sixx also stole his name. I'm throwing it out there. Frank Frodo, took, listen, keep this in here. He took the name Nikki Sixx from somebody who was already named Nikki Sixx, because he thought it was a cool name. So I think we're gonna steal terror twins, because we think it's a cool name. We think we can do it better.

speaker-2 (1:34:30)
Well...

speaker-1 (1:34:43)
And just like that, that's how it stopped.

speaker-0 (1:34:45)
I'm just saying, like openly saying that is crazy, for like on the Nikki six deal. That's I don't like that. That's just me. Is that weird? Can I say that?

speaker-2 (1:34:55)
just

like that. Nikki6 was N-I-K-I-S-I, it's spelled differently.

speaker-0 (1:35:01)
But he blatantly says he took it from someone.

speaker-2 (1:35:03)
You

know what? Back in the day I would thought that was fine but after seeing our shit stolen all the time and people reading our stuff that's some BULLSHIT! I cannot f-

speaker-0 (1:35:11)
The problem with everything today is originality. then people like hating on when you are being original, they hate on it. Why? Because maybe they didn't think about it, yada yada. It's like the hate and the unoriginality is the problem. And Tarot Twins are here to kind of bring some of that back. We're here to give you nothing but original stunts.

None of our stunts have ever been ripped off unless it was an 0-2 and we never really have even done that I think. there you go. That's Tarot Twins in a nutshell. Big ol' nut.

speaker-2 (1:35:49)
That's how you get a skate park in your town. That's how it's done. Take notes, ladies.

speaker-1 (1:35:51)
That's how it's done. Take no-

speaker-0 (1:35:54)
and

gents.

speaker-1 (1:35:56)
I'm cutting him us FPL on all platforms Gary Graves Sam Miller. Appreciate you guys coming on the pod

speaker-2 (1:36:03)
I'm dropping it the last bit of information what drop my magazine. We're getting the cover

speaker-0 (1:36:08)
Live your life! Be original!

speaker-1 (1:36:13)
Till next time.

speaker-0 (1:36:14)
Peace!

Take tight, I'm soaring like a bird Every trick or story, every slot or word Grinding on the edge, I'm breaking the mold Fingerboardin' dreams worth their weight in gold Hear the wheels as they scream In this thinkable

as they scream in this finger-boding dream